When in doubt, go with the video. I may have just lucked out in that mine was laying pretty much flat at all screw points. I thought my approach help others that might have encountered these issues. But I thought you would enjoy getting a look at some of the minor changes. Does that makes sense? Youll probably need a mallet to knock it in place. So here's a comprehensive list of all of the project plans we have available to download for free! Hey Stephen. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Especially with the Euro hardware were using, you need 3/4 thickness. Marc, So I suppose if you have large gaps, it would be worth the time to shim it. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. One question from a newbie. All content on The Wood Whisperer is copyrighted, and may not be reprinted in full form without my written consent. Then put router in corner and put it on wheels ..itll be my new router,out feed,assembly table. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Did you rabbet the drawers bottoms also? Been a while since Ive been in the shop, lol. Ditto! Other than than that, I am not sure what you can do to remedy the situation since the piece is already assembled. It does not store any personal data. Awesome projects! It had fold up casters so you could roll it around and then pull a rope to set the legs for a solid work table. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. Nothing in your plan sounds particularly troublesome to me. but the nail had not gone in perfectly straight and one of the chipper blades caught it below the head of the nail. Just measure and cut. Just wondering if you have already made a cut list and would mind sharing. The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely our own. It was a pleasure to find such a website. Bob: You should post pics of your project in our Flickr gallery. First cut (3) of the 2x4 into 48" pieces. However, there are millions of products and services on the web, and I only promote those products or services that I would use personally. Sketch-up model here: http://bit.ly/bLgg2A The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Woodworking Projects. I think this table would be an awesome addition to my garage and I was wondering if you had made a cut list for this project. The biggest mistake Ive made so far is with the dadoes on the partitions. I had planned to lay out my drawers the same depth as yours and I noticed the plans show different depths. So forgive me for being a little hazy on the details. Your email address will not be published. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. To be honest man, this goes well beyond my level of expertise. Anyway, I built a new assembly table using your torsion box design. That being said, I moved mine several times with no ill effects, and I know others who have it on wheels with no problems. I just watched both parts of your original torsion box assembly table build on YouTube. Does the inner edge of the door come to an edge of the partition, the center, the center 1/16, or something else? When I (Im building right now)put the hinge to the partition, to see where it sits, how do I factor in the additional space that is on the other (short/hinge) side of the door? If I need to call you I will. Love your design. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". I may be in left field on this, but in reference to Rosss question about fitting a new top..It seems the you could again cut the new top slightly oversized and flush trim to the old top for a perfect fit. Randy Klein June 3, 2007 6:10 pm Marc, I've always heard that interior doors are torsion box design with cardboard innards and about an 1/8th" skin on both sides. What really drew me to the first video(s) was the term dead flat. It seems to me that its all long grain and the slabs are only $60 each at Ikea. It does not store any personal data. Reminds me of the days in my shop. But again, this setup works just fine for me. thanks. I just bought the plans and and realized my table saw sits at 36-5/8(dwe7491rs) off the floor, so I need to adjust the plans. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. The top compartment above the compressor is vented. Leland. Around the 9:30 mark.I think you meant MY Festool vac! Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. Usually because I still want good results, regardless of the materials I am using. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. (I know that the most common adhesive for such a surface is rolled-on contact adhesive, and as such may create issues with the flatness of the top; it may end up lumpy, if you know what I mean. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". I know its a law of averages and I have to go with what works for me and all, but I am also trying to start in the right direction. I ask because I unfortunately do not have a jointer at this point and know the unreliability of straight and flat 24s from the local home improvement centers. But is that dead flat? I am new to woodworking, and I am planning my workbench. Actually thats just a rendition of my old torsion box assembly table. Ive been thinking about how I was going to finish the top and your designs with both the sacrifice surface and polyurethane will do the trick for me. Maybe something like a twin screw tail vise? Not everyone stocks it, but any place that sells plywood and other sheet goods has access to it. I was fortunate not to have any issues with racking but there are a lot of variables at play. I really appreciate all the tips for drawer spacing, guide alignment, etc. I have an air compressor very similar ot yours. I still have to put on the doors and their handles as well as finish the trim on the torsion box. This site uses affiliate links. A project like this Outfeed Assembly Table makes me realize just how long Ive been doing this whole woodworking thing. The oak trim with walnut plugs are also another design feature Ill use. A few weeks ago, I added the Incra TSIII Fence System to my tablesaw. Thanks for the site! At least it would give more height per (remaining) drawer. I would put that bushing back on the gauge and just make your slots 1 wide like I did. I am close to finishing this project and wondered were you got the on/off power switch? So depending on what you want, you can position it anywhere you like. The dimensions on the sides of the drawers seem to be 1/4 inch different between the drawing and the video. The tablesaw is a Ridgid TS3650 upgraded with a Biesemeyer fence and Bench Dog router table extension. Thanks so much for this design. The other half went to the drawers with a little space in between. But I do think its possible do adapt a vise to this table. I see no major problems with wheels. The kit from Benchcrafted looks nice and the hardware looks very sturdy. I ended up making some minor changes on mine because I decided I wanted the two bottom drawers to be a tad bit deeper (1/4 each) so I took it out of the top two drawers. Saw some of your newer videos in my google search for plans. I didnt see it any of the comments, I want to start on this project and was wondering if any one put together a wood shopping list? Overall size is 36 inches tall, 27 wide and 25 deep. Nice show Marc as always, you covered a lot of ground. First off I didnt use saw horses but used my table saw but did use the jointed 24 as you suggested. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". With a top as heavy as that, you dont need a whole lot of holding power. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". I am and intermediate woodworker with solid wood but have not done much with plywood. Enjoy watching your videos and this is a project I am interested in. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. I think we need a picture to make it perfectly clear. http://img716.imageshack.us/im..dwork1.jpg, http://img197.imageshack.us/im..dwork2.jpg. Any product claim, statistic, quote or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider or party in question. And yes, if you want to sit at it youd want to increase the overhangs just a bit. I see that you have the Sketch-up file and I know a cut list can be made using that program; however, I am just learning that program and I am not that familiar with it. Im sure if Powermatic made decent mustard-colored clamps, it might have been both ;). And a relative price point? However, there are millions of products and services on the web, and I only promote those products or services that I would use personally. The leveling feet give us a range which means your actual workpieces should try to be somewhere in the middle of that range, giving you ample room to adjust higher and lower as needed. But once my main parts are all cut, there is plenty of room in the rack for the scraps. What is the size of your new assembly table? Im thinking that the payoff is that its easier to work right next to the table without bumping your knees, but again, am interested in the thought process that went into that deciding that dimension. Hi Marc, !" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeEBwnWi8FY --~--Thanks to our sponsors Power. You put a 1/4 dado in the drawers and used 1/2 plywood for the bottom. Would you return to the old torsion box style or do something different? In general, do carbide router bits and saw blades dull faster when used on particle board and/or MDF than on real wood? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2006-2023 The Wood Whisperer Inc. And make sure the panel is a really tight fit. But in general, a torsion box is best kept station when possible anyway. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Ross: The only problem I can see with your idea is the fact that MDF is not the best material to drive a screw in and out of multiple times. It has 4 drawers with full extension slides like you have. Any product claim, statistic, quote or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider or party in question. Could this be used as a craft/art table? I am only popping a few brad nails here and there or blowing some dust off of something. :). Woodworking Bench Plans. Im not sure I can explain it any better. There is a nice gap at that top where it meets the torsion box top. Keep up the good work. :). But I actually think it would be more work. Good luck with the project. Ive had multiple assembly and outfeed tables throughout the years. The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely our own. I started out planning on 36 to match the other surfaces in the shop, and so the table could do double duty as a table saw outfeed. Oh, and one more Do you see any problem using the base as my foundation for constructing the top? Each unit measures approximately 15" high, 36-1/4" wide and 13-1/2" deep. This video was recording live on 9/14/11. This is the version they sell now: http://www.rockler.com/product..;sid=AFN86, hi Marc i was searching for drawer installation tips, and cant find nothing to help me make this job until i found your video. This you do in spades! Check out the video on the top: http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co..rsion-box/. You can keep the drawers the same length. Yup, its available upon request. Otherwise, I was thinking of building this with the sides just screwed on, so they can be removed at a later time and so allow any new piece to be flush trimmed again. Since I work out of my garage, I have only have room for one work surface . I always give honest opinions, findings, and experiences on products. So its kind of funny to come here and find you have another assembly table with some big differences. Made an assembly table of my own after watching all of your assembly table videos you have there.. :P Just had to have one! Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. :). As a beginning woodworker, its the efforts of folks like yourself that dont mind sharing the secrets that make the learning curve go that much faster. The link provided results in We are sorry, but the page you are looking for cannot be found. The number of slides that are available at the CSH site that MIGHT work is mind-boggling ! I think the MDF will not hold up as well and that is likely why they rounded the edges so dramatically to avoid presenting an edge where the MDF can chip/break. The Wood Whisperer abides by word of mouth marketing standards and holds integrity in the highest regard. The two outer partitions are ply, as are the strechers and toe kicks. The base for my assembly table is made of two plywood cabinets that are joined with three stretchers on top and two toe kicks on the bottom. :). If you are looking for different formats, be sure to look at the Video and Write Up of the project itself. pedro. At glue-up, after glue application to the grid work and skinning both sides, the edges would be clamped and a vacuum hose attached to the central hole, and the vacuum turned on. Anyway keep up the good work The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely our own. So here's ampere comprehend list regarding all of the plan plans we has available to read for free! Given this, please assume that any links leading you to products or services are affiliate links that we will receive compensation from. I agree that absolute dead flat is probably never an issue and a couple thousandths wont matter. Dec 10, 2017 - See related links to what you are looking for. Interesting video Marc. Yeah I guess we forgot to mention that. Hey Jessie. Comments. The drawer pulls are walnut. A question on the box thoughas you make the grid work, you place all the short pieces in a straight line through the length of the carcass, requiring kind of toenailing brads into the ends of each small peice. But I can tell you that the times Ive worked with MDF, I use all the same blades. To be perfectly frank, the differences werent great enough to justify making this project into a new video series. Didnt expect response since such an old post. My goal was to discuss my new torsion box assembly table and what makes it different from the original Torsion Box Assembly Table. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Thanks! Workbench Designs. And I cant remember the exact number off the top of my head. I would make them as large as possible and use pocket screws to install them. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Ill get you an exact measurement tonight. Woodworking with The Wood Whisperer The Wood Whisperer Leisure 4.7 255 Ratings JUN 12, 2023 video Sharp & Attractive Way to Store Kitchen Knives! I use my present out feed table as an assembly table and work surface and it could really use an upgrade. Marc, where did you get the drawer slides from? I will frequently clamp something to the table and that extra 5 allows me to clamp further into the table. Attached the clip to the base and drove the screw up into the top. Its fixed now. Apparently I missed your comment on how critical this step was and how I should dummy proof it. I always give honest opinions, findings, and experiences on products. ;-). Great video and terrific project. My New Outfeed Table (2011) Because I'm now in a smaller shop, I thought it would be best to design a table that served double duty, providing ample room for table saw support and plenty of real estate for assembling my projects. If my table saw is 933mm from the ground (its on a trolley) how much do I add to the Side Width (737). As usual, a great show. Imagine taking a 2 wide strip of 3/4 plywood and using a pocket hole jig to drill the hole at a shallow angle near the end of the trip. but now i m sure that i can learn a lot of new things and techniques about this fine arts. I have seen other designs that allow for air holes or ventilation holes for the compressor. The drawer false fronts are made with 3/4" poplar plywood with solid oak wood edge banding. I would love to see how it came out! Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Im planning to build a table with a base based on your design. Should I attach some strips to the back for stiffening? Step 1: Material and Hardware I bought (5) of 8' long 2x4 from home center, and that's all I needed for the table. I think the 1/2 deep dado would make for a stronger joint. It helps to use a larger screen. Heres a solution thats so simple, youll wonder why it took so long to develop! Appreciate you sticking with me for so long. Keep the videos coming. To avoid getting glue or finish drips on your workbench, and to keep your project at a comfortable height during assembly, build this generously sized, dead-flat shop table. I picked it up on sale which saved me $200 from what the Hitachi model sells for! I am doing a moderate project of my own posted here: http://www.woodworkingtalk.com..#post62135. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. :), Hi, great site you have on here, very good project. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. If those need to be longer than the drawer depth they could be staggered vertically with those for the opposite side. :->. This will help the frame resist racking, which will surely happen if you push that thing around. The Guild is our online woodworking school, so you do have to sign up to view the videos. Should do the trick. Not sure what you can do about it now except maying adding some extra support here and there to prevent any additional movement. I think even the president of Grizzly figured out that making woodworking tools is far easier than metal working tools. My hinge doesnt show me where the door will end. If you know how to build the first one, you definitely know how to build the second one. To answer Splinters question about drilling the 35 mm hole in the door, placing it about at 20.5mm (13/16) from the edge usally gives you room for the final adjustment on the inges to properly adjust the door. Insta: ronalder_custom_woodworking. Afterall, were not making stuff for the space station. No credit card is needed. Thanks for taking the time to do this website and more specifically this project. P.S. My question is about the compartment for the air compressor. But obviously, this one has not back panel. I dont stress-out too much about my assembly surface being dead flat, because the floor where the piece will end up wont be dead flat either. I wanted to offer compliments on your drawer install methodology. Sort of a happy accident., Iam almost done!.thoughts on adding face frames along with massive 2 way drawer slides from lee valley that push/pull through from both sides?if its going to be too big of a pain in the butt then ill just keep it simplebut at least its staying in the shop if i mess it upill post pictures once complete:), Sounds like a cool idea, but yes, a pain in the butt. I see the overhang on the plans, but how did you attach the top? I recently built the table you and I were discussing above and love it; however, due to requirements to get a project completed I have yet to add the edging. Those things are pretty heavy and the bolts need some meat to bite into. So if you put a frame around solid wood, you will get separation at the corners or cracks in the middle. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Instead of one big storage space accessible from both sides, it would be more like two long cabinets butted up back to back. My design is built with the addition of a sliding table saw in mind, and with 50 rails. I was thinking of getting rid of the toe kick and using a solid piece of ply on the bottom, but Im worried that it will sag in the middle. 2) I assembled the base and all the drawers lined up perfect until I moved it aroundthen everything fell out of alignment. I gave the old torsion box away to my assistant. My wife and I are starting to build my very own assembly table from your design for my shop/garage. The table features a bunch of storage with the option to customize it however you like. :). I liked the shot you picked as the image on this page. Any product claim, statistic, quote or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider or party in question. :) From what I can see the plans look great and have watched alot of your videos, very clear and to the point. When you go to make a million little MDF pieces for a torsion box, do you switch to a junker blade in your saw in order to save your better blades from premature destruction? :)s. Marc , if I used this base and put plywood on top, this could be my out feed table. Newbie question. This is a really nice design. See more ideas about assembly table, woodworking bench, woodworking. The video is information directly from me, so it should be accurate. ), and am busy planning my new shop layout. Looks great but why is this not a problem? The overhang is 9 1/2 but you can nudge the top one way or the other as needed. I went to my local lumber store and got vertical grain doug fir (not the home depot special) and love it as a bench top. Ive been thinking about building an outfeed table for a while, and this one hits everything I needed for my shop. The Wood Whisperer abides by word of mouth marketing standards and holds integrity in the highest regard. Thinking of future construction where having an area the size of the table dedicated only for assembly could lead to space issues. Email sent. Basically, the cup is installed a certain distance in from the edge of the door. Any chance you could post the plans for this assembly table 2.0? your own Pins on Pinterest I had looked at several different saws and was leaning toward the Hitachi 12 model with the LED display. Is that correct? ), Would you ever consider topping such a table with Formica laminate? ;) About two minutes from the end youll see a few shots of how the cords were run. Wow, nice work! If you want to save some extra money, you can make the top from a sheet of melamine and end up with he same spill-proof surface. MDF is a man-made sheet good and while it does have some movement, its nothing compared to how much solid wood would move. I never made plans for that version but its really the same thing with slightly different dimensions. The stretchers are also glued and screwed into each leg. Sounds like thats going to be the difference maker then. Been watching the dovetail video. Is it easy to change these plans? Ive had some issues that Im having a hard time figuring out maybe you can give me some tips. Hey Matt. I had placed the head of the (finishing) nail out of harms way and hammered it home (real hand carpentry!) Question, do you think I need anything else on the build to use these type of wheels or would you suggest another method or type of wheels. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Hopefully someone with some experience in this area will be able to give you solid advice. Many native birds are cavity nesters favoring rude hollows inwards snags and deserted woodpecker holes to make their nests. And thats basically impossible and also unnecessary for a wood shop. If you purchase decent plywood, it shouldnt (hopefully) be a problem. I am planning on building this table next week. This site uses affiliate links. I think you are doing about all you can do. The second reason is for clamping. I don't have the room for a larger one. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. My next step is to start on cutting out the drawer pieces and cabinet doors based on the cabinet dimensions I have from my assembled base. And youre saying dead flat is not really all that important? If the gun is perfectly perpindicular, the brad should fire straight. At first I thought this was due to the spacing of each drawer, but that seems to be already accounted forIs there a reason that the drawings dimensions are less than the video? The overhang doesnt really present a problem for me. I would enjoy the look but was wondering about the strength not that I plan to put my barbells in these drawers! A great way to safely store kitchen knives, up and out of the way but also easily accessible. Wish I could get my Dad on a faster internet because I know he would love your website as well. I forgot I had the sketchup drawing, lol. The plywood is actually there because Im about to use it for something. Certainly a legitimate way to get the job done. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. so it extends out more from under the table top? Also on the dado rabbets you showed cutting a dado 1/2 deep on the drawer fronts and backs but the plans call for 1/4 deep dados. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Assuming that particle board is an option, how do you specify the good stuff, and where can you buy it? Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Marc, Marc, The nice thing about a modular design is that it allows for quite a bit of . However, because the hardwood sides are glued on, that technique will not work next time. Pretty much any basic slide will work and if you can find over-travel, get that. Discover (and save!) Marc can you please leave a link to the power strip you used? Say you made a comment about using Doug Fir for a bench. Ive watched your videos on the new assembly table where you stated that the dead flat emphasis wasnt as great. Bill. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". I recommend making yours the dimensions that best fit your space. Its 4 feet by 4 feet and adjusts from 30 to 39 inches in height. thanks, So there are no issues. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. I can say that after over a year of use, the cabinet shows absolutely no sign of racking. I could not tell from the video if the top just sat on the base or if it was attached. I have started back up to this hobby of wood working (been out for 30 years with general life) and came across your site. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Why dont these crack and split over time. In the podcast you showed your drawers at 4, 5, 6 1/2, and 8 depth with 1/4 spaces top and bottom of each drawer adding up to the full 24 3/4. Never tried it but I think it should work. Hey Hans. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. This site uses affiliate links. Im not 100% sure exactly how much a sheet of 3/4 light weight MDF weighs but its advertised as being 30% lighter than regular MDF so Im guestimating it to be around 60 lbs or so per sheet. Once the base was shimmed and top was installed, I noticed that the cabinet racks lengthwise when pressure is applied to the top(like when planing on a big tabletop). This project was really to teach myself some cabinet basic for some up coming closet projects. Big fan of the site and your work. I made a dumb mistake. Perhaps they are just fine. Honestly, I never use the stuff. I am using a torsion-box top. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. Hi Marc, Thanks for taking the time to answer the comments too. Its in the video. I did notice that you never put any type of finish on the drawer fronts or edge banding. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. A good, practical and affordable design. The epoxy product was CPES (Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealer) and the water-based finish was most likely General Finishes High Performance. Video - September 18, 2011 157 - My New Assembly Table Share Watch on This video was recording live on 9/14/11. I cut a few plywood clips and drove screw through them at a very shallow angle. This large workbench is ideas for assembling wood projects, as it sturdy and it has a generous tabletop. I m an accountant by profession and i love woodwork. a little off topic; Not at all. I guess you can say its staged or on deck. The particle board I have seen lately in the local (Phoenix) BORGs has been marked underlayment, and doesnt seem as dense or as strong as some particle board that I have seen in the past. What are your thoughts about using solid wood for the drawers dovetailed? It does not store any personal data. :), I did a smaller version of the project with a cutlist and plywood layouts for the base only. Well done. I would love to see it. Thanks! Well done. Or would I be better to stick close to the new assembly table design and figure out some type of rolling fold away cart thingamagig? 2) SawStop has an odd T-Slot configuration for its miter gauge system. To be completely honest, I have no idea.
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