Get Guns.com offers and news!! I own two since i liked the first one so much. By and large, most are configured for right-handers, with brass ejected that direction. Kel-Tec has always had a different take on firearms, which makes it a natural to take on the bullpup. There are some reviews on YouTube. Although I wish my Tahoe had Kia mpg. Kel-Tecs first foray into bullpup rifles was their .308 RFB, which received mediocre reviews. Long story short there are solutions that can provide bullpup guns with excellent trigger feel just as good as conventional firearms BUT doing so requires actually outside of the box creativity and/or old school quality engineering and actually "giving a $#*&" which unfortunately is not so common in firearms design anymore. Not with long arms and certainly not with subguns or pistols. At just 28.2 inches in length it is shorter than my 11.5-inch barreled AR-15 SBR, but boasts a 16-inch barrel. (2) Newton's other two laws says that an object that stays at rest tends to stay at rest. I'm considering getting it in 6.5 Creedmoor. 5.56 NATO (.223 REM) Color. A bullpup is a type of firearm with its action and trigger behind the trigger group. TL:DW version. FNs little bullpup might be the cutest rifle on the list. I got a hold of a friends TS12 and found myself surprised and pleased that it ran like an absolute clock. The Hellion sports an overall length of 28.25 29.75 inches, a 16-inch barrel, and weighs in at 8 lbs. As to the tale of the tape, the rifle boasts a 16-inch barrel and is a compact 26-inches in overall length. Featuring a "bullpup" configuration where the action is located behind the trigger, the Hellion features an overall length of just 28.25-inches while still possessing a 16" barrel. It holds 7 -2 3/4" shells and one in the chamber or six 3" shells. IWI website has the grip panels and other accessories, Gear & Gadgets on the Texas Fishing and Outdoors Show, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. , which can affect the guns balance and can cause the muzzle to rise significantly when being fired. 0:00 / 10:26 Bullpup Battle - Hellion vs MDRX vs AUG vs Tavor vs FS2000 Texas Plinking 1.02M subscribers 201K views 10 months ago In this video, I compare 5 of my bullpup rifles. Longer aftermarket options are available if you look to extend its range. Also, many bullpups are back-heavy, which can affect the guns balance and can cause the muzzle to rise significantly when being fired. For stand up shooting, it's my favorite rifle. Why These 2? The distance from the trigger to the butt stock is exactly the same whether bullpup or not. A little battle between 2 bulls. Yeah "know your holdover" but it's what? The springfield hellion, a gas-impingement rifle, boasts a superbly accurate 18-inch barrel. However, mine has been excellent. Fortunately, most newer bullpup firearms have found a way around this with downward and upward ejection features. The only way to choose is to shoot both and decide for myself. New Hellion vs X95 and AUG - Battle of the military bullpups! I found it to work well. I did not experience any brass in my face at all. Federal Action Shotgun: Built to Run That Shotgun Fast! Ive scratched those itches. To unlock the rotating tubes, you press a device forward of the trigger, and it unlocks the tubes for easy rotation. This Austrian bullpup rifle is one of the most recognizable and popular weapons in its field. But dont be fooled. I go over some of the differences in specs, pricing, shooting impressions, etc. While its true that bullpup weapons have some benefits that set them apart from traditional firearmsthere are still a couple of cons. First impressions of the rifle were very positive. People have been screaming at Springfield Armory for years to get a civilian legal version of the VHS into the United States. The DP's slight weight increase is it's only drawback, a direct result of its bullet proof design and build quality. Tell us in the comments! This is once again, a slight change in our manual of arms and operating procedures. So the conventional rifles go to the range and the Tavor is best when plinking on a friend's property. As the name implies, it ejects spent casings directly downward. Personalize your experience. Then I quickly adjusted to the trigger and was able to put the pedal to the metal on all my drills. But I'm happy with mine. This is due to the linkage between the trigger and the action Which is far behind the position of the trigger. People lived their SAR until they tried the X95 and they fell hard for the updated Tavor and all it had to offer. Bullpup allows "shorter barrels" without sacrificing range/power/muzzle velocity. High Tower Armory - Ruger 10/22 Stock Bullpup. The Springfield Armory Hellion retails for $1,999. You didnt think Id write a review of bullpups and leave off the Steyr AUG, did you? The. Kel-Tec trimmed the KS7 to one tube, and it holds seven rounds of 2.75-inch shells. I also noticed no one @ ppt has a trigger pull gauge either. where VHS-2 / Springfield Hellion as the best all rounder? The trigger is supposed to be really good for a bull pup. Mac is a tool. The weapon's reputation received an additional boost in 2014 when it won the National Rifle Association (NRA) Golden Bullseye Award for Rifle of the Year. The Hellion is based on the VHS-2 bullpup rifle used by the Croatian armed forces. No such thing. Editor's Note: Adam Borisenko contributed to this article. "With the changes applied to the design by Springfield Armory, the Hellion offers American shooters a truly unique and capable 5.56mm bullpup.". I'm looking into getting an iwi Tavor, and with all the research I have done it shows the x95 is the better rifle. Nonetheless the cartridge is deadly as a Mohave rattler when hits are precise. The dp12 has it's own set of problems. Theyre short, compact, and easy to handle but still have the same accuracy as long-barrel rifles, shotguns, and submachine guns. At 26-inches in overall length, the MDRX is agile, particularly with plenty of real estate upfront for the support hand. This semi-auto version has parts made in Croatia which are imported and assembled in the U.S. This is because the heaviest part of any rifle is the bolt action group and the barrel. All modern rifles (including bullpups) now use this straight line recoil design. It has a twist rate of 1:7 and has a durable Melonite coating. Compare a new L85 to a new M16/M4 of the same year and the L85 is always worse. The Springfield Hellion vs The IWI X95 Tavor By Richard Anthony Published on November 12, 2022 It's been a while since we've done a 'twofer' here at Great American Outdoors and what better way to solve that issue, then showing you two of the coolest bullpup firearms out there on the market! Additionally, this is also why bullpup shotguns make decent weapons for home defense. Standard models come with a 1.5x optical sight and carrying handle. I tried the X95 and while I found it very familiar with its controls, it did not do it for me. During Croatian military service, the French military also reviewed the rifle, as did law enforcement. It's just that bullpups at any given barrel length will always be shorter since you ELIMINATE the useless/redundant butt stock - the bolt action group & firing chamber & any other mechanisms behind the trigger CONSTITUTES the butt stock! The Steyr AUG might be one of the most recognizable bullpup rifles. A little battle between 2 bulls. Heck, even the bolt release is all AR-like, which makes it easy for shooters to adapt from one gun to the other. At each turn I found myself liking the Hellion more and more. This is a design feature of the original VHS-2 rifle. Specifically, conversion kits that can take these and bullpup them. Home Shotgun Reviews: Everything Scattergun Best Bullpup Rifles & Shotguns of 2023 Best Bullpup Rifles & Shotguns of 2023 Bullpups are so different. Bullpups are tail heavy since the magazine is located behind the trigger, thus the design tends to enhance muzzle rise. Never had one malfunction in 4 years and it can hold 16 rounds. The handgun ban was a dog that wouldnt hunt, but the lawmakers were too lazy or scurrilous (likely both) to remove the length requirements. The current MSRP for the Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56mm NATO Bullpup rifle is benchmarked at $1,999. We'll cover the best bullpup rifles and shotguns, their pros/cons, and the best models out there right now. When you aim a rifle and steady your breathing, the rifle is already in equilibrium. But the accompanying pictures show the bullpup as being the heavier of the two, TWICE. Like its SRS sibling, the MDRX is multi-caliber and comes in .223 Wylde, .308 Winchester, and .300 Blackout in the 16-inch and 20-inch, with the 20-inch also offered in 6.5 Creedmoor. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. While awkward-looking, it makes attaching lights and accessories fairly easy to accomplish. Zombies BEWARE! A scant 26-inches in overall length, the 16-inch barrel rifle is ideal in close quarters and plenty quick at the shoulder. The AUG A3 M1 is the semi-automatic civilian version of Steyrs military rifle and a tidy package. Have you considered the Steyr Aug also? This is related to the next point. Thanks to all who voted. Some guns in this category have simply abandoned any hope for a decent trigger, but Springfield has put some work into it. Its a simple but smart design that makes it fast and easy to keep your shotgun running and gunning. Because bullpup firearms have a different design than their traditional counterparts, they need to be handled differently. John Edward. As always, in the rare event that you should ever need service for your firearm Springfield Armory has a Lifetime Warranty that stands behind all of their firearms. This nice piece of glass would serve me well during testing. You can reload both spare tubes while keeping a loaded tube in position to fire. Skip to main content Skip to search. What makes the MDRX an incredible gun is a forward ejection mechanism, meaning the rifle is fully ambidextrous. Now that weve covered the basics of what a bullpup is and why you might want one lets have a look at some popular bullpup modelsin no particular order. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. I'm a bit surprised that I haven't seen anything on this site about the new S&W M&P 12. Its reputation for reliability in the field has made the shotgun popular among certain, You didnt think Id write a review of bullpups and leave off the. The IWI Tavor x95 has been in service with the Israeli military since the late 2000's. This rifle was a huge step forward in creating a bullpup that translat. The A2 version fixed almost all of the issues with the L85A1 but it won't ever live down its reputation for being one of the worst designed and fielded military rifles in history. The Hellion is well made, free of rattle and play and comfortable to run. Its different if all youve run is an AR, but easy to learn. The text says the bullpup Mossberg reduces weight significantly compared to a standard Mossberg. I bought an Aug since it just fit right and the balance is great. The Hellion sports ambidextrous controls that work in concert with a reversible case ejection system. Springfield Hellion Bullpup 223/5.56 HL916556B. There are after market items that can be purchased on line. From the outside, the Springfield Hellion looks like it sprung from the fertile mind of H.R. Check it out here! integrated flip-up, elevation adjustable. AUG came in distant second (or third). I have recently purchased a Keltec KS7 and basically it's a KSG with one tub instead two. The safety and location of the magazine drop mirrors the AR. Its a ton of firepower in a pump-action shotgun and provides an often low-capacity platform with a few more options. Ejecting spent case below the buttstock, the system eliminates what is typically the greatest bullpup bane for lefties. Pros of Bullpups Learn the trigger of your gun and master it. I want to like the Hellion but the atrocious height over bore is ridiculous for precision. towards your level. Use of an imported magazine may put you in violation of 18 U.S.C 922(r). This gun offers an easy-to-use safety mechanism located above the grip. ^ AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. We already have an account registered for email address FN does the primary contract now and a new one is a fine rifle if not flashy. Click below for a FREE LESSON! Straight line designs HELP, but do NOT eliminate muzzle rise. It is around the same price as the KSG or a little cheaper depending on where you purchase it from. Shame that this factual inaccuracy keeps getting repeated ad nauseum. I'm waiting to get an mdrx someday. The Hellion features a reversible ejection system for fired cases that requires no additional parts or tools. I'd rate the X95 slightly lower than the VHS, personally, as I dislike the AR-style magazine release and the X95's charging handle isn't protected where the VHS's is. You have entered an incorrect email address! Bullpups have the action located behind the firing grip. It seems to work well with suppressors. Desert Tech made its name with long-range rifles, but has shown more than proficient with carbines since the release of MDRX. Length: 28.25 - 29.75. Elwood add that they get to interpret any way they want to to you last sentence and you pretty well nailed the issue. Need Help? The rifle I received came complete with a Nightforce NX8 1-824 optic. Mine malfunctioned every other round. True enough, chambered 5.7x28mm, the rifle might not be the top-choice for self-defense. Flip-up iron sights were integrated into the design as well. Nine-round magazines offer substantial firepower for the short little gun. short barrelled rifles is completely pointless. This ensures no one gets a shell to the face. Texas Plinking - Springfield Hellion vs IWI X95 Tavor Ill cover more exactly what a bullpup gun is, the pros/cons, and the best models out there right now. Posts: 5,238. Compare. It uses a short-stroke gas piston system with two settings of adjustment, and it weighs 8 pounds unloaded. Off-hand at 25 yards saw five rounds almost all touching. Five, six inches? I bought the K&M Arms M17S in 5.56 Nato for HD and urban combat (hopefully it won't become necessary). The kit even comes with an attachable shell deflector, making it easier and more comfortable for left-handed shooters. Black. If I was a lefty I'd be more inclined to go with the Hellion or the X95. Although it came in closer to $2000 on launch, the price of the Hellion has dropped to a much more appealing $1599-1699 range. The charging handle is reminiscent of the H&K G36 and is spring-loaded. Save my name and email to use for future comments. With some direct feedback on the new bullpup, James Reeves over at TFB-TV, FMG Publication's Roy Huntington, and Fred Mattison with Ballistic all went live with reviews today. However, the PS90s reputation for excellence has made it apopular choice among LEOs in the United States on a local and national level, as well as the Taiwanese Armed Forces and various militaries in the EU. He is a gun owner and avid reloader from Colorado. 1911 Mil-Spec Handguns. Desert Tech has improved the trigger over the years, striving for crispness and predictable. Any reason you chose the SAR? In addition to STANAG magazine compatibility, it boasts an adjustable short-stroke piston system, top and bottom Picatinny rails and very intuitive controls. I also prefer the SAR to the X95. This gun looks like a weird one but handles well. It looks like both of these rifles are evenly priced, so it all boils down to a personal preference. I am a little surprised you selected the IWI Tavor SAR over the Tavor X95. Perhaps an article regarding who, what and why the NFA came about is in order.AS many know there was a lot more to it than simply keeping dangerous firearms out of the hands of undesirable people. It also has fully ambidextrous controls and a reversible ejection system that can be swapped without using special tools. They have a lot of benefits in a tactical settingwhich is why various bullpup guns have been used by armed forces worldwide, including Britain, France, Israel, and Australia. 5.56 NATO. You do not pay All Deals; Today; Categories . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The Hellion is far superior in build quality and overall shooting experience. The Tavor has been out a little while whereas the Hellion is still fairly new. You betcha! The Hellion is the most modern Bullpup rifle on the planet, but is it the best? Look for a full report in an upcoming issue of March/April issue of Tactical Life magazine. Both guns are very reliable and real range toys that attract attention. Out of all the bullpups out there, it has the best trigger of all the BPs out there. It also competed in trials to replace the FAMAS rifles. But the rifle is more than capable of quick and accurate follow-up shots in skilled hands. It would feed cheap Walmart special birdshot, reduced recoil buckshot, standard buckshot, and whatever else we put through it. While in some peoples minds, Croatia is not a hotbed of weapon manufacturing, they produce some solid guns. It's pretty terrible on a bench though. S&W built the M&P 12 with outstanding ergonomics, including a tube switch button on the pump of the weapon and ambidextrous controls that make it easy to operate. Please understand this before you write nonsense like bullpup-muzzle-rise-due-to-heavy-rear. Bullpup rifles and shotguns break all of the rules. Its a favorite among left-handed shooters who are frustrated with bullpup designs that send casings flying in their faces. Call (866) 582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. ullpup guns that arent specially designed to eject casings downward are prone to hitting left-handed shooters in the face. A big thanks to Silencer Shop for sponsoring this video. If you all update this list, please review the Panzer Arms BP-12. Its a smart design. You can read more about the TS12 in our complete review. Check today's video on TFBTV to see how it holds up to a range review and a little but of mud/water testing, as well as accuracy testing. These comparisons are great for those who are planning to get a bullpup. Steyr AUG Hands-On Review! Gravity has been cancelled out by the upward forces produced by your arms/hands. Above the barrel we have an adjustable gas system. The Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56mm (bullpup . Furthermore, Steyr has excellent optics mounting options, including a long or short Picatinny rail and 1.5x or 3x integrated optics. As a bullpup design, the Springfield Hellion features a 16-inch barrel in a package only 28.25-inches-long overall. The handguard also has M-LOK slots in the handguard, a veritable standard on anything American black rifle these days, as well as six QD mounts. The TRP is based off the custom Professional Model HRT 1911 developed by Springfield Armory for the FBI..45 ACP. Reloads require similar adaptation too, given the magazine loads on the top of the rifle. After watching this video, which would you take of the two, and which bullpup would you choose overall? The 16-inch barreled rifle comes in just north of 27-inches in overall length and tips the scales at 7-pounds flat. Standard pistol-gripped models are available in 16, 17, and 20-inch barrels, with a rifle-gripped slim survival model being available with a 16-inch barrel as well. The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. The DP-12 is awesome. An evolution of the proven HS Produkt-made VHS-2 rifle system, the Hellion has an overall length of just 28.25 inches while still possessing a carbine-length 16-inch CMV barrel with a 1:7 twist. The best grab if only one can be. I can not say for certain, but I believe that as rifles get broken in, that magazines will begin to fall free when released. When you reduce it to a bullpup-sized platform, the recoil gets a little extra oomph. you a link to reset your password. While S&W might have been influenced by Kel-Tec, they certainly made the M&P 12 a very different gun. Unique as all get out, the PS90 is both fun and deadly serious. I guess I don't agree with him again. Accuracy-wise, the gun shot well. The information below comes from the websites of both companies. MSRP $1,732 - $1,818. Fortunately, most newer bullpup firearms have found a way around this with downward and upward ejection features. One new winner* is announced every week! The new rifle is refreshing as it represents a unique and innovative approach to firearms design. Modern extremely high speed video has long since confirmed a lot of things about recoil. They are a sturdy spring-loaded metal design with a diopter rear and fully-enclosed blade front sight. Other than stature, the Thorneycroft had everything it took to make the Bullpup concept a dusty novelty. Pretty solid points in the designs favor. This means a face or, perhaps, a shirt full of hot brass. AUG for me all day long. It is very accurate with good ammo. The final issues walk hand in hand. anything extra and your The RDB packs solid features and reliablity at a great price. An uninterrupted strip of Picatinny rail runs along the top of the Hellion, ensuring you can mount the optics of your choice. I have no real use for the gun, itll just be a toy. I have to disagree as you didn't consider the effect of gravity on the position of the mass of the weapon. I have shot the KSG and now own the DP-12 Shrinking the size of their rifle game, Springfield Armory hit the market Friday with the Hellion bullpup 5.56 NATO platform. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Hellion vs X95 and AUG - Battle of the military bullpups, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsBm0Kypols. When you rock it backwards, the stick starts to rotate and point upwards. At 100 yards, I was able to get a nice 1 1/8-inch group with good ammo. 2. I think you'll need to update your lists of best bullpups and best tactical shotguns once you get your hands on one for evaluation. IWI Tavor X95 FDE 300 Blackout XFD16-BLK. Arguably its nimbler and more controllable than more traditional designs, a function of hand position nearer to muzzle. As to what you get in the bullpup, a short and stout 5.56 NATO with some extras that make the rifle particularly appealing. The original version of the VHS dates even further back, to 2003. Tradeoffs are the name of the game in firearms and there are some with the compact rifle. It feeds from STANAG AR-15 magazines (unlike the original VHS-2 which uses . The IWI Tavor, previously designated as the Tavor TAR-21 (Tavor Assault Rifle - 21st century), is an Israeli bullpup assault rifle chambered in 5.5645mm NATO calibre, designed and produced by Israel Weapon Industries (IWI). Starting in 2022 Springfield will be offering its first bullpup rifle to the market, the Springfield Armory Hellion. The Hellion sports ambidextrous controls that work in concert with a reversible case ejection system, allowing it to be easily fired from either shoulder. He's as annoying as Nutnfancy and about as punchable. Stay in the know. Probably ok for Tim considering the dude is like 6 ft 2 or 3. It has teeth! Log in. I do miss that 9.5" barrel. Basically my brother hates it which is why I have it, he won it in a contest and decided he didn't like it and gave it to me. I cant find any reviews on it but the local LGS has sold a boatload of them. The resulting firearm easily and quickly adjusts to fit conditions and ammo availability. It is very reliable and handles fairly well for a bullpup 12 gage. If you are tired of the same old AR-patterned guns hitting the shelves, you would be well served to take a long hard look at the Springfield Hellion. This extra-long rail will allow the inclusion of thermal or night vision devices as well. New Hellion vs X95 and AUG - Battle of the military bullpups! We start at the 16-inch barrel. At only 26.1 inches long, its just above the overall length requirements for a shotgun.
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