For more information, please see our Lore wise, I was pondering what side my morally dubious Redguard would take when it comes to the Skyrim civil war. Imperial troops are trying to conquer Winterhold, but had not been successful. Redguards can have self-interests. Imperial forces are stationed on the border between the Rift and Eastmarch, threatening the southern flank of Eastmarch. Community content is available under. Unlike Ulfric, Tullius is not Power hungry. For any other reason, or if you feel your character is hesitant, choose the Empire. The outcome of this ambush is unknown, as the Stormcloak who gives the information got shot by an archer before the battle was over. Although the court had imagined Ulfric came to ask Torygg to declare independence for Skyrim. You will be asked to take sides in the Civil War being fought between the Imperial Legion and the Stormcloaks (a historical description of which may be found here). Choosing Sides You are first asked to choose sides shortly after you escape your near-execution and the subsequent dragon attack during the Unbound quest, at the point when you choose whether to enter Helgen Keep with Ralof, a Stormcloak, or with Hadvar, an Imperial soldier. If you do make a choice, you can later change sides. So I'm a neither side person. [18], The Stormcloak movement was initiated by Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak of Eastmarch after the Markarth Incident,[1] and aims to remove the Imperial Legion from Skyrim and turn the province into an independent kingdom. A subreddit about the massively popular videogame The Elder Scrolls V, Skyrim by Bethesda studios. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim is one of the most successful RPGs of all time, giving players a vast world to explore and having consequences for many of the decisions that they make.The Civil War is one storyline in which players can control the outcome and narrative as they decide to side with either the Imperial Legion or the Stormcloak Rebellion. [25] Others state the name was created by Ulfric himself to show his lust for power.[27]. With all the possible changes that can occur depending on what side of the war the player chooses to side with, Skyrim's Civil War storyline introduces a variety of different characters while strengthening the lore of the world and giving Elder Scrolls players insights into the future of Tamriel. By Erik Petrovich Updated Jun 3, 2022 It can be hard to choose between joining the Imperials or the Stormcloaks in Skyrim.. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Redguards hail from the great desert province of Hammerfell. The dark-skinned, coarse-haired people of Hammerfell seem born to battle, though their pride and fierce independence of spirit makes them more suitable as scouts or skirmishers, or as free-ranging heroes and adventurers, than as rank-and-file soldiers. Cookie Notice Collapse Contents Foreword 1 PS3 Controls 2 Xbox 360 Controls 3 PC Controls 4 The Compass 5 Compass icons 6 Being Stealthy 7 Lockpicking 8 World Map 9 Dragon Shouts 10 Defense (How to Not Die) 11 Character Creation Leveling Basics Leveling Up 12 Attributes 13 Perks 14 Race Basics of Race 15 Argonian 16 Breton 17 Dark Elf (Dunmer) The other initial Jarls that side with the Imperials are the Jarl of Falkreath Hold, Siddgeir; the Jarl of The Reach, Igmund; the Jarl of Hjaalmarch, Idgrod Ravencrone; and the Jarl of Whiterun, Balgruuf the Greater. [51], Whiterun Hold had been neutral territory during the Skyrim Civil War,[54] with skirmishes on both sides[55] taking place in the Hold and Fort Greymoor switching hands between the Empire and Stormcloaks on a regular basis. He just wants the war to end. By clicking View Page, you affirm that you are at least eighteen years old. I personally always felt more connected to the Stormcloaks. One of the first choices you make (whether you know you're making it or not) is to fight with the Imperals or with the Stormcloaks. The rebellion against the Empire was just a way to stir up trouble and hate in Skyrim until the Thalmor can seize it with almost no opposition. But the Redguards should not forget the great sacrifice of Imperial blood - Breton, Nord, and Cyrodilic - at the Battle of the Red Ring that weakened the Dominion enough to allow the eventual Second Treaty of Stros M'kai in 4E 180 and the withdrawal of Aldmeri forces from Hammerfell. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim is available now on PC, PS4, PS5, Switch, Xbox One, and Xbox Series X|S. She lied through her teeth about the Oath, but is sincerely helping the Stormcloaks, albeit for the wrong reasons. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Havok Release date November 11th, 2011 December 8th, 2011 JP June 4th, 2013 ( Legendary Edition) October 28, 2016 ( Special Edition) November 17, 2017 (Nintendo Switch/ PlayStation VR) April 3, 2018 ( PC VR) November 11th, 2021 ( Anniversary Edition) Genre Action role-playing, Open world Modes Single Player Rating ACB: MA15+ Don't warn me again for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim View Page [39] A noteworthy event is him directing the ambush, and capturing Ulfric Stormcloak and his top lieutenants at Darkwater Crossing. A subreddit about the massively popular videogame The Elder Scrolls V, Skyrim by Bethesda studios. [28][29][30] If any legionaries keep faith in Talos, as it is implied Legate Rikke or Hadvar do, they keep their religion to themselves and pray to Talos discreetly and out of earshot. Nah. and our You couldn't be more wrong about the Stormcloaks being xenophobic. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Three achievements (50 points; 2 Bronze and 1 Silver) are unlocked by the Civil War quests, https://en.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=Skyrim:Civil_War&oldid=2508173, This questline is put on hold during the ceasefire negotiated in, Leftover dialogue, markers, quest updates, and other evidence suggests that at one time the game's developers intended the Civil War to be much more dynamic and complex than it currently is. [32] Some Imperial loyal Jarls and lords recognize the power of the Thalmor and seek to ingratiate themselves with them if it serves their interests. He leads the Imperial war effort. There are four Jarl changes that take place when siding with the Legion during the Civil War storyline in Skyrim. "In a world without gold, we might have been heroes!" Privacy Policy. For Skyrim Special/Anniversay Edition. 2. If the SC wins, they go fight the Aldmeri Dominion (AD), even in their weakened state. For more information, please see our Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. For example, if you are a Stormcloak you are no longer welcome in Imperial Camps, and after a warning, will be attacked by Imperial soldiers if you do not leave immediately. Even if the Empire won or the Stormcloaks won though, that would be bad for Thalmor in the long run or? Stormcloak. In The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, players find themselves in the midst of a civil war for the eponymous province. They fight an army, that forced the empire to agree to the White Gold Concordat, and they think that their small island country will do any better? Warmonger Armory isn't just an excellent Redguard mod, but also an excellent mod in general, no matter which character you're playing. So far, Imperial and Redguard are the only two I havent done a proper playthrough with and Im leaning toward Redguard for this one. Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. This mod is based off of the original Civil War Overhaul by Apollodown. :: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim General Discussions Content posted in this community may not be appropriate for all ages, or may not be appropriate for viewing at work. Well, there are more factors to consider. So, players will either assist or attack these Holds based on which side of the war they decide to support. [15][16] According to Igmund, the Jarl of Markarth, the war "really started" after Ulfric and his militia (the Stormcloaks) were imprisoned and found they could trust the Empire no longer. But, is rebelling against the empire really worth being controlled by the Aldmeri Dominion? After escaping the Helgen keep, your chosen companion will suggest that you join their side, adding the corresponding quest to your log. Believes that the Nords should be free to worship Talos. [31] Even so, high ranking Imperials do acknowledge that Ulfric is not wrong that the Thalmor hold influence over the Empire. Basically, the ranger is a warrior and thief hybrid that takes full advantage of the Redguard's strengths to make the ranger the best build for Redguards in Skyrim. During this interrogation, Ulfric was made to believe that he divulged information which led to the fall of the Imperial City before being allowed to escape. Its origins can be found several years prior to the death of High King Torygg when skirmishes raged across the land,[13][14] with large-scale military conflict starting after he was slain by the Jarl of Windhelm, Ulfric Stormcloak. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The three other Jarls supporting Ulfric at the start of the game are the Jarl of The Pale, Skald; the Jarl of The Rift, Laila Law-Giver; and the Jarl of Winterhold, Korir. Their base of operations is the Palace of the Kings in the city of Windhelm, with Galmar Stone-Fist serving as their field commander. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. [21] Ultimately, this is where the war against the Empire truly started. Some Nords, notably Jarl Laila Law-Giver of Riften, do not entirely trust or support Ulfric but back the Stormcloaks as they share the common goal of independence from the Empire,[26] while others feel the civil war bleeds Skyrim dry and will leave the Thalmor as the sole beneficiaries. Can't become Thane of Falkreath or Riften? The Imperial Legion is the military arm of the Empire, which, prior to its Great War with the Aldmeri Dominion, ruled over most of Tamriel. Several years prior to 4E 201, there were clashes between the Imperial Legion and Stormcloaks in Eastmarch Hold, the outcome of this skirmish is unknown. zerobobo posted. Minor bugfix - Remove unnecessary Skyrim.esm Facegen files. [33][34][35] These people state that the times of war between the Empire and Aldmeri Dominion should be over[35] and that peace and prosperity is good for everyone. I have gone and rebuilt the mod from the ground up, hopefully adding a lot of . [1] They also played a role at the execution in Helgen, where they tried to save Ulfric Stormcloak from execution, in order to keep the war going. [15] Though most do not approve of the White-Gold Concordat, the Imperials are forced to allow the Thalmor to uphold it in order to preserve the peace between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. For more information, please see our Hates the Thalmor in general, but that goes without saying. At the start of Skyrim, each Hold will have a single Jarl in place that has already shared their allegiance with either the Stormcloaks or the Imperials. He would want to strengthen the stormcloak so they could unify with hammerfell and other resisting states to fight the Aldmeri dominion. I used to care but then it started to bug me so I just began wiping about any camp I found. [52], The Imperial Legion has sent Legate Fasendil to Skyrim to keep an eye on the Thalmor, who suspects that they are behind the unrest in Skyrim. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. To join an army, you need to go to that army's base to join (in Windhelm for the Stormcloaks, or in Solitude for the Imperial Legion). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. *SPOILERS*. Its that time of year where Im gearing up for another in-depth playthrough and Im trying to decide on what race to be. I usually choose The Empire (Emp) over the Stormcloaks (SC) because they're the more logical choice in the long run. Even after you are formally inducted, you will have yet one later chance to change sides. [36] Furthermore, some of the Imperial supporters cling to the prosperous trade they have had with Cyrodiil,[37] while others simply believe they have a better chance of defending against the Aldmeri Dominion if they are united with the Empire. If your character is full of spite for the Thalmor, and wants to kill them as quickly as possible, choose the Stormcloaks. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. MORE: Skyrim: 10 Things About The Civil War That Make Absolutely No Sense, Civil War storyline, and even during the main questline, Skyrim: 10 Things About The Civil War That Make Absolutely No Sense. His first words at the execution stage in Helgen was "Good, lets get this over with.". I'm wondering if she would swallow her pride and join the Empire despite a grudge against them.. in order to create a stronger Tamriel? However, the rebels have since defiantly taken the name and made it their own, to honor the common cause of Skyrim's independence they are fighting for. I started a Dragonborn character to finally play through this content in fitting with the character's RP, so here's some points about her: I feel the Dragonborn should be at least partly Nord, in-game she is a Nord but for RP she is half Redguard/Nord, coming to explore Skyrim for the first time after being born and raised in Hammerfell. If the players choose to side with the Stormcloaks, they will travel to the other five holds and overthrow the Jarl that is protected by the Imperials. Probably thinks Windhelm is a right dump lmao. I like to role play :). On the Stormcloak side, you must complete. Other plausible reasons for a Redguard to support the Stormcloaks is a Redguard being a Talos worshiper (which would be legal in Hammerfell), being raised in Skyrim, or having a Nord spouse who would be affect the White-Gold Concordant. For more information, please see our Ulfric Stormcloak arrived at the gates of Solitude, requesting an audience with High King Torygg. 6/11/2014 in Lore The Skyrim Civil War-The Best Choice (This is a post I made on a thread that I though was good enough to post as a discussion starter) Ah, the mighty question of Skyrim. I took sides with the Stormcloacks once (the Empire tries to behead you as soon as you're acquainted with it, it doesn't give a good first impression). Which side was right? Everyone does. But then, they had me besiege my own city of Whiterun and fight old friends. Contents 1 History 1.1 The Markarth Incident 1.2 The Rebellion, The Civil War and Torygg's Death 1.3 Sundered, Kingless, Bleeding 2 See Also 3 References History [ edit] Little is known of Ulfric before 4E 176. Ashley Hill. You will also be given a set of armor. She has seen some of the close-minded racism from the Nords / Stormcloaks and wouldn't want to associate herself with that. Cookie Notice Reddit, Inc. 2023. [22] The Stormcloaks see the Empire's Thalmor influenced laws as a threat to their Nordic way of life. Which would make the most sense. So, I took sides with the rebels. [21] However, when the Thalmor found out about the Empire breaking the terms of the White-Gold Concordat, they demanded the arrest of Ulfric Stormcloak and his militia,[1] at this point the Emperor was also forced to grant the Thalmor access[29] to Skyrim and give them the rights to "drag people from their houses" if they worshiped Talos. Quests Three achievements (50 points; 2 Bronze and 1 Silver) are unlocked by completing either Civil War questline (either Stormcloaks or Imperial Legion ). Which side in the Civil War is right to YOU? The same achievements can be obtained regardless of which side you choose. At the end of this quest, you have a final opportunity to keep or change sides in the Civil War. For siding with the Imperials: [53] The Thalmor dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak states than an Imperial victory harms the Thalmor's overall position in Skyrim and that a Stormcloak victory should also be avoided. I think not. What did you choose in the Civil War, what are your reasons and why do you think the side you chose will benefit Skyrim in the future? As a result, Jarls are often corrupted by greed and power, so when players decide to keep or overthrow a Jarl, the consequences may not be seen in the Holds capital city, but its effects are felt during the Civil War storyline, and even during the main questline. I was thinking he could have been a thalmor spy and fled hammerfell and join the legion or he dislikes the thalmor like most redguards and would join stormcloaks. [34], The majority of Skyrim's more affluent populace are supportive of the Empire, as they feel Ulfric's speeches amount to political posturing and that his underlying motive is to become Skyrim's new High King. *SPOILERS* zerobobo 10 years ago #21 Apex1619 posted. Board index The Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim; Change font size; Print view; FAQ; 2 posts Page 1 of 1. Sort by: best. Listening to Ulfric's talks in Windhelm made him sound like a fool. Reading Ulfric's Thalmor-dossier made him sound like an idiot. Quick bit of info, nearly all of the characters i've played in the past have not been Dragonborn, and have been neutral in the Civil War, therefore I've only played the main quest ONCE and never played the Civil War quest, or even any of the DLC which I've owned for some years now. [57] After an unknown period of time, Ulfric started planning an attack on Whiterun. An asset, yes. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim features 10 playable races. Their racial bonuses seem to make them more apt for a spellsword or a well-rounded assassin. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to join either side, or asking people which side I should join. With the decisions that players make in this storyline, many of the Jarls ruling over the various Holds in Skyrim can be overthrown, forcing the Holds to switch their allegiance and progress the narrative of the Civil War. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The main purpose of this mod is to introduce new lore-friendly Armors, Weapons, and Clothes that can be instantly associated with the series' classic archetypes. [56] Jarl Balgruuf refused the Legion's right to garrison troops in Whiterun city, on the other hand he also refused to acknowledge Ulfric's claim. [15] Tullius has only been around for a few months, but has really turned things around for the Empire. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Do they have a previous relation with the Empire (legion vet or whatnot)? Due to the past problems with the Redguards and Imperials involving the Great War would a Redguard fight for the Stormcloaks to . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Who should a Redguard side with? Whiterun, Solitude, and Windhelm are all liable to become damaged from battles, depending on how far players progress in the Civil War questline. Which side of the Civil War do you usually choose? Taking a hold would have involved capturing the outlying villages and/or points of interest as well as completing the regular missions. I don't know much about the Elder Scrolls lore, and Skyrim is my first TES game. [19] After the Great War ended, the Thalmor established contact with Ulfric, believing that he could be a valuable asset. I did play a file where I sided with the Imperials on the xbox though. Everyone does. The Empire abandoned Hammerfell when signing the White-Gold Concordat. [38], General Tullius is the military governor of Skyrim and the commander of the Legion in the province. If you join the Imperials, the second quest that you receive in the Imperial questline will be The Jagged Crown (Imperial), and if you join the Stormcloaks, the second quest that you receive in that questline will be The Jagged Crown (Stormcloak).