Now I will tell you my thoughts after listening to many instances. Think I is a second press and all the others appear to be first . That year they switched to 180 gram "SV" (Super Vinyl) The Plastylite stamp was applied during pressing, and is found in random position, angle and depth, with no consistency. Usually, a catalog number is Know anything about these. Its not every day I learn something new about my favorite band of the last 35 years, but you provided plenty of interesting tidbits here. A sealed, mint, first state stereo copy of this pressing was sold for $12,500 in 2016. Recycled vinyl is another area that divides opinion. (Overlay text added for font comparison.) PS, I saw Led Zeppelin in 1969 at Leeds Uni, I will never forget the dynamics, the 1000 watt slave amps stacked 10 high and only 2000 people in the hall. Would it have a great value today if I had kept it? This is because the global nature of Ebay allows basically a worldwide audience to see and bid on an item, and also allows for the value to change on an almost instant basis (as outside market forces affect values, or two collectors engage in a bidding war over the item). We oversaw every aspect of record manufacture. The distinctive double ring outer pressing die marks are found on many Waddell pressings in these two years. (note, later in the 60s some font design changes changed the Bert-Co number 1 to no serif). Now, if only my Thompson Twins and Shalimar vinyl was so coveted, Yes, Shalamar and Thompson Twins are strangely absent from the Rare Record Guide. Led Zeppelin, or more specifically, Jimmy Page, negotiated their recording contract with Atlantic Records USA; there are several interviews with Page that confirm this business deal. Thanks. the vinyl is broken a little but the words on it are wizard live recordings private collectors edition can anyone help me out with this? If Living Loving Maid is mis-credited as Living Loving Wreck its worth around 250 to a collector. These pressings have raised outer edge like most modern vinyl. So many hours go into making an album, and getting the pressing right is essential to show off the sonic quality and dynamic range of your music. They therefore fetch the most money. What color is it? Hi Bob, Should you buy? If you hold a lot of records, youll know when youre holding a heavier record. What these inscriptions mean varies from record The label is smaller in diameter (3&7/8 inches wide; original is 4 inches wide), the bottom half of it is more pink colored (original is closer to plum), and the trail-off area is about twice as wide as on the original. Determining which pressing of a Beatles record you have can be a tricky process, but with a little bit of knowledge and research, anyone can become an expert in recognizing the differences between the various pressings. Does that help? If it is 75 Rockefeller instead (but still SD-8236), you have a circa-1974 re-issue (Atlantic moved their offices to the latter address in 1973). Looks good and more expensive (I think) than a Rega! Web1 Answer. Regarding Asas Aug 29th comments on finding a very knowledgeable & reputable source for pricing or buying: Printed pricing/buying guides were pretty much rendered obsolete with the advent of auction websites like Ebay. But runoff groove etchings really dont mean much. Me pedantic??? Hello. If we discuss how publication sounds better, it is necessary to compare the sound. I would go down to the pressing plant myself and make sure that everything ran smoothly. WB: Many have erroneously cited the code CT as signifying the Bridgeport plant when, in fact, it was a code for Columbias Terre Haute, IN plant (as was CTH). When I first started building up my record collection again, my local record shop, Leigh Records, had a 40 UK plum labelled copy of Led Zep III and a US pressing for 7.50 in the same condition. I have a question has anyone ever seen this led zeppelin record it has and old picture of them bonham on the left page in the middle with a scarf jones on the right and kneeling down in front is a striped shirt plant. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. So we just decided that it was time for us to take control of our own situation and ensure that Led Zeppelin were presented in the best possible manner. Can you tell me about CODA,I would grade it as excellent -, due to the fact I dropped my eyeliner pencil and the back of the sleeve has a tiny dot on it, the vinyl is a++. In Australia we had 3 rather rare EPs (especially the first) & some incongruities such as Whole LoTTTa Love with an extra T on the 45. WebCopies of the "Please Please Me" vinyl record pressed immediately after the switch to the yellow and black label can be found with "33 1/3 rpm" instead of "Recording first published 1963" on the label. By the way, the Lemon Song Page Plant credit is only an issue with UK pressings of the album; the U.S. pressings were never changed to the Killing Floor Burnett credit. These were released in January 1969 in the US, fully two months before the turquoise ones were released in the UK, technically making them closer to the original master tapes. Factories Capitol has had several factories over the years. A Billboard article from September of 1963 noted that Columbia was phasing out pressing operations in Bridgeport. The Definition of a first pressing or pressed vinyl record, is a record that was pressed from the 1st original masters. Not quite as common are actual track and album side errors like the one you had, but they do happen and are not necessarily rarities. Though the subject is contentious, Columbia cut multiple lacquers simultaneously some say on the same day, and distributed multiple copies of these lacquers to plants nationally, who used them to manufacture metal parts locally (Customatrix Division). The importance of wires, auditioning methods and othertips. Why people pay 5 times more for the version with the blue writing rather than white writing is beyond me because the discs are from exactly the same master. I can now stop regretting that I returned the recorde to the shop 46 years ago. Im not convinced having Perry Como on one side would increase the value of a Led Zep record. It is the only one that allows me to hear all the guitar parts on Black Dog clearly. With the Beatles first pressing value is incredibly high due to its historical significance. The next edition it mispress (ATCO). Wasnt aware of its value until I walked by a young gentleman that was wowed by what I had. Some helpful examples- expect to pay $5-25 for most vintage Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones (expect original 60s pressings in great condition) records, $10-50 for Beatles vinyl that is 60s or early 70s pressings in VG+ or better condition, $1-10 for really common and/or low demand artists (not that they aren't worth having) like There are a couple on Ebay right now with asking prices of a few hundred dollars, but asking price and selling price can be two quite different things. Musicians dont have to be global megastars to get their music on wax. However, a bit of impromptu research from some audiophiles* has revealed that in the majority of cases the US pressing actually sounds better than the UK one. Technically detailed, exhaustive 40 pages in alphabetic sequence of etching, includes many obscure etchings not listed elsewhere. The first pressings of Led Zep 1 are easily identifiable with Turquoise lettering on the front cover. The same is true of Electric Ladyland and is the reason why people want the Track versions rather than the later Polydor versions which were recorded quieter because of the jumping problem. You shouldnt be prepared to look for first pressings unless you are fond of shouting Me! whilst you suffer a heart attack from fright. Thanks. Second pressings still from the sixties and with orange lettering on the cover are marginally less ridiculously priced, but may still set you back a few hundred quid if mint. Imprimatur Varade Vinili. My old turntable finally died and I chose that as my first record for the new turntable. Coverage largely rock and pop engineers, jazz in amongst them, some photographic links. The stencil says Overgrown with some flowers around it. First a word about bootlegs: A bootleg is a recording that is not commercially available to the public (such as a live concert recording never released by the label). If it's a quality product now, it will be regarded as a quality item in the years ahead. What turntable did you buy? It plays fine on a proper turntable but not on a Radiogram which is what most people had in 69, if they were lucky. The pink / lilac one is a limited edition UK-only pressing released in November 1978. Buy quality. Hi Jim not a stupid question at all. The notion that US pressings of III sound better than a UK Plum original is simply not true. This wasnt because I have some sort of maverick vision or second sight as a record investor. Hi Roger. Lots of great info in this thread, you really know your stuff. Some things to look out for when identifying an original copy. Fantastic stuff! Than a later Edition, the vocals further. Where are such things found? Bob, just send it to me. Bell Sound was an unusual end-to-end complete service, from studio recording, to mastering and pressing. You can find them on Ebay occasionally. 1. You can look at a site such as Discogs to et an idea of value of albums it all comes down to condition. WebMost copies are the regular 70s or 80s copies but some are the original first issue. Other sources are required for mastering/cutting engineers. Are you sure its from 1968? Cheers. Sadly we have no space to store anymore and it seems a shame for them to sit wasted in a loft. I just recently came home after purchasing LZ: IV and It turned out to be a clear Atco record.. Is this good or bad? A lot of big record labels switched to 120-140 gram vinyl pressings because they are cheaper to produce. *rubs hands greedily*. Runout Stamps/ etchings and centre labels. There is still a market for picture disc vinyl. Consisting of numbers and/or letters, the code may indicate recording dates, specific takes, and even the system of recording. WebDownload our free Record Label toolkit - http://OtherRecordLabels.com/toolkitWhat is a test pressing and how do I review my vinyl test pressings? Any value? Im prepared to take a small drop in quality to pay a lot less and enjoy every other aspect of vinyl ownership. Have had a copy of physical graffiti for a number of years now side4 even though has the right tracks on it has the side 4 label of the Song remains the same album any thoughts on this and possible worth. Pressing plant including metal work for Capitol Records in Los Angeles, California. Thank you the information you gave me Is very helpful. 1978 in the USA?? Another thing you should know about buying Led Zep vinyl is that their first couple of albums are very, very expensive. Plastylite Corporation, North Plainfield, New Jersey. Here is a 3-minute simple but concise video made by BBC in celebration of the 60th year of RCA Record Companys release of the seven-inch single. But as a Zeppelin vinyl collector myself, Id like to add a few clarification comments if I may. I have a number of original pressings in my collection, including1973 Good By Yellow Brick Road, Exile on Main St with cards, Wish You Were Here with cards and Led Zeppelin 1 which is the orange writing being the UK second press dated 1969. Note: for ten weeks, late June until early September 1959, Capitols Scranton plant was on strike and Capitol pressings farmed out to other plants. But when one is an audiophile and a strict empiricist such eldritch contradictions of all time and space simply can not be denied. Grit and gristle might have got in when recycling. Cheers. Why does this matter? Album cover: Side One = Whole Lotta Love, What Is and What Should Never Be, The Lemon Song, Thank You; Side Two = Heartbreaker, Living Loving Maid (Shes Just a Woman), Ramble On, Moby Dick, Bring It On Home. On original issues the label has a solid blue prism not black like the later copies. With all of these albums, you can buy cheaper copies by targeting the eighties reissues on green Atlantic labels. Anyone know anything about Icelandic Led Zep pressings? Now I at least know which record I have. Classic used 180 gram vinyl until 2001. Im going to do more research as most of mine are from the early 70s. A closer look at the spine of the record sleeve will also help determine whether you have an original pressing. Thanks so much for your comment. This is represented in the price, too. Two were in operation at the time when the Beatles began their career. The grooves may not be as deep, and the sound quality can suffer. If this is enough to make any Beatles fans heart skip a beat, they should know that this is a much more valuable record than this one. It hasnt been through the digital processing that doesnt always translate to vinyl. Appreciated. This overview is primarily about vinyl pressing plants in the 50s and 60s which were significant players in the manufacture of jazz (LogOut/ The Meet the Beatles first pressing was a major milestone in the history of popular music. When you are looking for vinyl record pressing, consider if your listeners or your bandmates will be happy with a lower weight, or whether it is worth the extra cost to produce 180 gram. One of the easiest ways to tell if a record is a first pressing is by looking at the vinyl itself. Youll get the best price selling individually on eBay, but check out record Collector magazine -there are plenty of dealers for a job lot just dont expect to be paid what they are worth. Its hard to say. I agree that the UK Physical Graffiti sounds nice. I have a perfect complete 1,2,&3 with complete album cover etc. Otherwise it looks & sounds excellent, and certainly an improvement on my 30+ year old Onkyo which was past its prime.