In Freethinkers Hall, which before the Nazi resurgence was the national headquarters of the German Freethinkers League, the Berlin Protestant church authorities have opened a bureau for advice to the public in church matters. For they have committed adultery, and blood is on their hands. You shall also say to the sons of Israel: Any man from the sons of Israel or from the aliens sojourning in Israel who gives any of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. God is Love, right? None the less would the plague have been miraculous--(1) in its intensity; (2) in its coming at the time prophesied, viz., midnight; (3) in its selection of victims, viz., the firstborn males only, and all of them; (4) in its avoidance of the Israelites; and (5) in its extension, as prophesied, to the firstborn of animals. Though He slay me,I will hope in Him.Nevertheless I will argue my ways before Him. I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. Humans do and God allows them to. Do you understand that God is both merciful and JUST and meted out the same punishment to the Amalekites that they had done mercilessly to others? As we will talk about later in this article, all of this seems to foreshadow the death of Jesus. God ordering genocide but its justified if its in his approval. Notice in every passage where there is a promise of severe punishment like the death of children, there is also a very clear explanation that this consequence is due to sin: . Jeremiah 31:31 states, Behold, the days are coming, declares theLord, when I will makea new covenant . Your use of savages and demonization of people you know nothing about to justify genocide is very Nazi-like. (LogOut/ When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. 16 Bible Verses about God Killed The Peoples. A number of cases of mass killings of people, apparently at God's behest, are recorded in the Old Testament: 1. This womans son died in the night, because she lay on it. he has rejected you as king., 24 Then Saul said to Samuel, I have sinned. Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. Exodus 23:7 Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty. Humans are inherently tribal and superstitious, By: Keith Arrowsmith on November 7, 2017 at 8:26 pm. It was considered a punishment for someone else to inherit your land other than your own children. It is not obvious, and assuming the god of the bible is real, it is not false. By: edhensley on July 12, 2012 at 4:56 pm. interesting to read all of the comments however, sticking to the original questions and verses if you study and read youll find out that the orders werent for right then it was for later and those that didnt get killed youll read in the book of Esther that and Amalek by the name of Haman plotted to kill all the Jew which would have affected the lineage of Jesus. Thus says the Lord of hosts, I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Good for you. 29 He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a man, that he should change his mind.. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. God punishing the children for the sin of the parentsto the third and fourth generationof those who hate [him] (Exodus 20:5) is the law that was enforced when God commanded the death of babies in the Old Testament. We are free whether we like it or not, therefore our sin will hurt other people in our lives whether we like this truth or not. You called me immoral for justifying Gods actions. V W X Y Z 14 Bible Verses about The Death Of Babies Most Relevant Verses 2 Kings 4:32 Verse Concepts When Elisha came into the house, behold the lad was dead and laid on his bed. Nevertheless I will argue my ways before Him. By: Erin on November 11, 2011 at 1:35 am, Oh yes he did order to kill ,READ UR BIBLE OPEN UR EYES C D TRUTH. adolf hitler would b proud of America we MURDER millions of babies and adolf hilter had six millions Jews murder and we say we are a Christian Nation. Your idea of God is not perfect. When we do not understand the scope of sin and the punishment a holy God requires of those who transgress against him, we will not understand how God could command the Israelites to destroy whole nations, including their children and infants. For they preach, but do not practice. Copyright 2001 by Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. By: David Mattches on July 28, 2017 at 11:04 pm, The constitution provides a secular government ensuring there is no religion in politics therefore freedom of the individual from persecution . But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_blib1.htm Nowhere have I put the blame for the whole messed up world on one religion. You explore only the information that makes you look good and ignore the rest. But the king was enraged, and he sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and set their city on fire. You merely state an assertion. When they forsook God, they forsook his favor and protection and the children suffered the consequences of the parents choices. Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be "dashed upon the rocks". Exodus 11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: Exodus 13:15 And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem. 7. The New York Times Story: Atheist Hall Converted. He decides when we will enter into our eternal destination. My passion is to help others apply God's truth to every aspect of life for his glory and our enjoyment of him. It's completely free - my gift to you. Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. One could assume she acquired some of her moral foundation from him. I have wounded and it is I who heal, by Mark Ballenger Hosea 13:16, Luke 24:27 Perhaps the hardest question I've personally asked about the Bible is, "Why does God kill babies in the Old Testament?" 22 But Samuel replied: You have made over 10 comments, many of those with multiple questions, and I can not spend all day responding to you. Dont worry. Instead of killing her as she deserves for her betrayal, God tells Hosea to purchase her back again (Hosea 3:1-5). We are living in the days talked about in those Bible passages. However, it will change from the way you presently perceive it. I suggest if we want to stay the right side of the law, the Old Testament should always be viewed through the eyes of Jesus and Paul for that matter. Eventually his sin caused the death of his whole family. Who is brass enough to tell the creator of ALL THINGS BOTH LIVING AND INANIMATE, He cant crush and remake to His perfect will? By: edhensley on August 7, 2012 at 2:03 am, THE BIBLE IS NOT GARBAGEmay God forgive you, By: follower of Christ on December 17, 2015 at 4:00 am, Why are you yelling. 30 Saul replied, I have sinned. The Death of Babies Does Not Mean Gods Love Is Lower Than We Thought. ], By: Tommy Harris on November 25, 2011 at 4:21 am, please read the gospel of Buddha men rewrote the bible jesus didnt approve of the old testament they brought a woman before jesus guilty of adultery old testament says to stone her to death he wrote there sins on the ground he didnt die for our sins yet so we where still under the law but yet he didnt obey the law why, By: freedom on February 24, 2014 at 10:12 am, It is admitted, even by many conservative bible scholars, that the story of the woman caught in the act of adultery was added to that passage by later scribes. 21 The soldiers took sheep and cattle from the plunder, the best of what was devoted to God, in order to sacrifice them to the LORD your God at Gilgal.. I merely pointed out a contradiction between your moral judgement on God and myself with certain humanist/atheistic views. Therefore no one needs to bear the punishment of sin anymore. He did much evil in the sight of the. Thus they have committed adultery with their idols and even caused their sons, whom they bore to Me, to pass through the fire to them as food. There is little difference between Hitler claiming Arians were a master race and Jews claiming they were Gods chosen people. Life is in God's hand. God ordering genocide but its justified if its in his approval. God is recorded in the Bible as having personally killed a large number of people. By the waters of Babylon, there we sat down and wept, when we remembered Zion. These extreme laws were validated by Gods extreme clarity and manifest presence. and to heed is better than the fat of rams. In western countries that have been impacted by humanism, slavery has been abolished and women and minorities have been given equal rights. Bob, the world may never end. Others take the whole thing in context and use it to learn and grow. Exodus 4:23. . The Old Testament is about the God of anger but in the New Testament God changes and becomes a God of love. God lived with them in the tabernacle and the temple and showed himself in visible ways through incredible and miraculous ways (parting the red sea, appearing as a cloud of fire, producing water out of rocks, manna from heaven, etc.). 35 Until the day Samuel died, he did not go to see Saul again, though Samuel mourned for him. What Does the Bible Say About Twin Flames? So why did you choose to delete it? The children of the destroyers will become as they are raised and taught. Instead of children and infants it uses infants and sucklings. What can a baby that is still breast feeding possibly have done to deserve being killed by an army of 200,000 men. By: edhensley on June 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm. Because the midwives feared God, He established households for them. There were no atheistic atrocities listed in the website below, but many Christian atrocities. Whether it be at two weeks old our 102 years old, God is the one who decides when our time on this earth begins and ends. When the letter came to them, they took the kings sons and slaughtered them, seventy persons, and put their heads in baskets, and sent them to him at Jezreel. They say of them, Let the men who sacrifice kiss the calves!, and I pronounced them unclean because of their gifts, in that they caused all their firstborn to pass through the fire so that I might make them desolate, in order that they might know that I am the, When you offer your gifts, when you cause your sons to pass through the fire, you are defiling yourselves with all your idols to this day. Unfortunately innocent children died as a result, they didnt have the social welfare services to take care of these children. Ok thats certainly not in Catholic teachings or the Bible. God does see the big picture and does know. For these and many other reasons, I am in favor of a women deciding if there is a need to terminate a pregnancy, preferably when the embryo is in its early stages. Therefore, I sacrifice to the Lord the males, the first offspring of every womb, but every firstborn of my sons I redeem. So it shall serve as a sign on your hand and as phylacteries on your forehead, for with a powerful hand the Lord brought us out of Egypt.. By: Ronnie De Leon on August 31, 2016 at 12:43 am. 5. Humanists do not approve of slavery because almost all people do not want to be slaves. That explains what happened to the welcoming and kind a giving native.who didnt know Christ but seemed to be more Christ likeaint that some shit!! Hosea marries her, has children with her, but despite all his kindness and love towards her she returns to her life of prostitution. People allowed themselves to be lead by him instead of God. Adolf Hitler: Significance of the Religion of Love was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. New American Standard Bible Copyright 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation, La Habra, Calif. All rights reserved. Jeremiah 38:6,13 Then took they Jeremiah, and cast him into the dungeon of Malchiah the son of Hammelech, that was in the court of the prison: and they let down Jeremiah with cords. Suddenly the calamity fell upon them and "there was a great cry." Look, we have been conditioned to believe and to have an image of God as a benevolent, loving being. 30But everyone shall die for his own iniquity. (1) There is a difference between murder and justifiable killing. You pick and choose but will never see the whole picture. The firstborn of your sons you shall give to Me. If an artist paints a picture and once done steps back and this master piece he created is far from his intentions, who had the right to tell him he must not destroy whay He created and is displeased with? It had about 500,000 members, The New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 2, on Hitlers outlawing atheistic and freethinking groups in the Spring of 1933, after the Enabling Act authorizing Hitler to rule by decree, By: edhensley on November 25, 2011 at 11:00 pm. And now they sin more and more,And make for themselves molten images,Idols skillfully made from their silver,All of them the work of craftsmen.They say of them, Let the men who sacrifice kiss the calves!, and I pronounced them unclean because of their gifts, in that they caused all their firstborn to pass through the fire so that I might make them desolate, in order that they might know that I am the Lord.. David refused to eat or drink. This is an absolute lie, God never asked to have these people and animals put to death, another plan of Satan to take over the world. So the king of Egypt called for the midwives and said to them, Why have you done this thing, and let the boys live?, The midwives said to Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are vigorous and give birth before the midwife can get to them.. And the Lord said to him, Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. Mary Loses Her Virginity Isaiah 7 in the New EnglishBible, http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/IVP-NT/John/Jesus-Forgives-Woman-Taken, http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/luther-jews.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers1.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers2.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers3.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers4.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_cana.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_cana0.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_blib.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_blib1.htm, http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_blib2.htm, Single moms are breeding criminals - Page 29 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum. No people do things to hurt themselves all of the time. Deuteronomy 27:25 "Cursed is anyone who accepts a bribe to kill an innocent person." Then all the people shall say, "Amen!" 3. Please keep your posts relevant to the verses discussed. Amalekites were also Baal worshiping people, and to worship their deities they would have orgies at the temple and sacrifice their own children to their deities. God gives life and he takes life. God is also grieved by our wickedness. They are killed because of their parents alleged sins. By: AintSayin on August 4, 2012 at 10:32 pm. By: Kanna on February 9, 2012 at 5:44 am, By: Single moms are breeding criminals - Page 29 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum on March 9, 2012 at 6:58 pm. You shall take them back to your brother. We mustnt blame God, we must blame human sin for the death of babies in the Old Testament. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation. 7 Then he said to them, "Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. God killed his own son in the New Testament so none of us would have to see the effects of human sin that are so clearly displayed in the Old Testament. This is an amazing website. To obey is better than sacrifice, Three days ago I was doing a bible study with my friend and I came across Ezekiel 9:6-7, where God orders the slaughter of men, women and children, as a somewhat new Christian I was obviously disgusted and horrified by the verse, but can my fellow brothers and sisters Christians explain this verse for me in more detailed information, it is greatly appreciated. Ok bottom line Bible some people use it to spread hatred and attack others . (Note: There is a biblical difference between kill and murder. Kill is used when you have the right to take a life. The Muslims and Hindus in post war Indian inflicted ethnic cleansing on each other. and dashes them against the rock! A) God must be bloodthirsty since he ordered the deaths of an entire people group. When and how we all die is God ordained. By the way, the list of atrocities in the websites below do not include Margaret Sanger in them. U You dont know if they were given a chance to repent that you may have missed either. (Read Job.) I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name.